The Fighting Pacifists Alumni Association, 2004

The Fighting Pacifists meet every Wednesday at 8:30 p.m. at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom (San Francisco, CA, U.S.A.).


December 29, 2004
Attendance: Patty S., Maud M., Dagny, Matt H., Kim A., Lyn G., L.J.
Notes: Tah tarty tar tuh tah tah tarty tar tar.

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December 22, 2004
Attendance: 
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December 15, 2004
Attendance: Patty S., Aaron, Adrienne P., Petrina, Dagny, L.J.
Notes: Stop and smell the virtual flowers.

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December 8, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, J., Patty S., L.J.
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December 1, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Sharon T., Chris, Patty S., L.J.
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November 24, 2004
Attendance: Patty S., Dagny, L.J.
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November 17, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Liisa T., Beth B., L.J.
Notes: 

Subject: (none)


October 27, 2004
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October 20, 2004
Attendance: 
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Subject: No dim wits

FPs,

Around them shall go eternal youths, with goblets and ewers and a cup of flowing wine; no headache shall they feel therefrom, nor shall their wits be dimmed!
-- from *Chapters from the Koran*, translated and Annotated by E. H. Palmer, Vol. XLV, Part 5 of *The Harvard Classics*, New York: P.F. Collier & Son, 1909–14

Celebrate Ramadan -- well, or give a nod in its direction, anyway, at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, October 20, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.


October 13, 2004
Attendance: 
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Subject: FPs,An honest man, that is not quite sober, has nothing to fear.

-- Joseph Addison

You could do worse than 8 p.m., Wednesday, October 13, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.


October 6, 2004
Attendance: L.J.
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Subject: (none)


September 29, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Jen A., L.J.
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Subject: (none)


September 22, 2004
Attendance: Hugh D., Elliot, Adrienne P., Dagny, L.J.
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Subject: (none)


September 15, 2004
Attendance: 
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Subject: (none)


September 8, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Jen A., L.J.
Notes: Group moves to Royston Vasey.

Subject: Hesiod's paradox

FPs,

Drink your fill when the jar is first opened, and when it is nearly done, but be sparing when it is half-empty; it’s a poor saving when you come to the dregs.
-- Hesiod

Join in, fast-slow-fast, at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, September 8, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


September 1, 2004
Attendance: PS, L.J.
Notes: Dental woes.

Subject: Don't you drink?

FPs,

Don't you drink? I notice you speak slightingly of the bottle. I have drunk since I was fifteen and few things have given me more pleasure. When you work hard all day with your head and know you must work again the next day what else can change your ideas and make them run on a different plane like whisky? When you are cold and wet what else can warm you? Before an attack who can say anything that gives you the momentary well-being that rum does?  . . . The only time it isn't good for you is when you write or when you fight. You have to do that cold. But it always helps my shooting. Modern life, too, is often a mechanical oppression and liquor is the only mechanical relief.
-- Ernest Hemingway, letter to Ivan Kashkin (critic, poet and translator, mainly responsible for establishing Hemingway’s reputation in the U.S.S.R.)

Won't you drink, at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, September 1, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom?

L.J.


August 25, 2004
Attendance: PS, L.J.
Notes: Private affairs.

Subject:  . . . and then there's liquor

FPs,

It smells like gangrene starting in a mildewed silo; it tastes like the wrath to come, and when you absorb a deep swig of it you have all the sensations of having swallowed a lighted kerosene lamp.
-- On corn liquor, for the State of Kentucky, U.S. public relief program (1935-1943), in *Kentucky: A Guide to the Bluegrass State (The WPA Guide to Kentucky)*, p. 225, Harcourt, Brace (1939), quoting the *New York Times*, in turn quoting Irvin S. Cobb.

Lights out, at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, August 25th, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


August 18, 2004
Attendance: PS, Patrick, L.J.
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August 11, 2004
Attendance: 
Notes: 

Subject: History

FPs,

I pray thee let me and my fellow have
A haire of the dog that bit us last night.
-- John Heywood (1497?–1580?)

Biting at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, August 11, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


August 4, 2004
Attendance: Jennifer R., Bruce T., Penelope W., Beth G., Dagny, Patty S., Tod B.
Notes: 

Subject: Discernment

FPs,

Let school-masters puzzle their brain.
With grammar, and nonsense, and learning;
Good liquor, I stoutly maintain,
Gives genius a better discerning.
-- Oliver Goldsmith, She Stoops to Conquer

Sharpen wit at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, August 4, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


July 28, 2004
Attendance: Mark D., Pat E., Dagny, Hugh D., L.J.
Notes: Penn and (don't) Teller; not enough effect.

Subject: 

FPs,

And as for the rowdy world in the large cities, so little enterprise has it that it never adventures in this direction, but like vermin clubs together in alleys and drinking-saloons, its highest accomplishment, perchance, to run beside a fire-engine and throw brickbats.
-- Henry David Thoreau

That's why there's a fire station right next to Dylan's! Bring your brickbats at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, July 28, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


July 21, 2004
Attendance: J., Hugh D., Jen A., Tod B., Dagny, Maud, Mati M., Patty S., L.J.
Notes: To the right of the left of the right; serving Republicans; how to be a dominatrix; everybody's tired.

Subject: Moderation of moderation

FPs,

People who, out of an inborn moderation, leave every glass standing only half emptied refuse to admit that everything in the world has its sediments and dregs.
-- Friedrich Nietzsche

Bottoms up at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, July 21, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


July 14, 2004
Attendance: Sharon T., Dagny, Maud M., Hugh D., Beth O., Patty S., L.J.
Notes: Bastille Day

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July 7, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Patty S., L.J.
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Subject: Drink to remember

FPs,

Beauclerc: You’ve got a good memory for one who drinks.
Eddie: Drinkin’ don’t bother my memory. If it did, I wouldn’t drink. I couldn’t. You see, I’d forget how good it was.
-- Jules Furthman, William Faulkner and Howard Hawks, screenplay for "To Have and Have Not" (Paul Marion as Beauclerc, Walter Brennan as Eddie)

Don't forget, 8 p.m., Wednesday, July 7, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


June 30, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Patty S, L.J.
Notes: 

Subject: Lube job

FPs,

Beer has long been the prime lubricant in our social intercourse . . .
-- Rennie Ellis (on beer drinking in Australia)

Slick up at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, June 30, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


June 23, 2004
Attendance: Sharon T., Patty S., Dagny, L.J.
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Subject: 

FPs,

I see not much difference between ourselves & the Turks, save that we have foreskins and they none, that they have long dresses and we short, and that we talk much and they little. In England the vices in fashion are whoring & drinking, in Turkey, sodomy and smoking.
-- George Gordon Noel Byron

Exchange vices at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, June 23, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


June 16, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Patty S., L.J.
Notes: Vespa group puts the squeeze on FPs.

Subject: Drink in deed

FPs,

Tell me what brand of whiskey that Grant drinks. I would like to send a barrel of it to my other generals.
-- Abraham Lincoln

End civil strife at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, June 16, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


June 9, 2004
Attendance: Anna S., Matt H., Jen A., Patty S., Dagny, L.J.
Notes: 

Subject: Dediction

FPs,

Same old shoes,
Same old overalls,
A 16-hour day for a nickel's worth of pay,
When I die pour whiskey on my grave.
-- The Dickel Brothers*

Well, you don't have to be quite so romantic at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, June 9, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.

* Thanks, Tod B.


June 2, 2004
Attendance: Sharon T., Dagny, Jen A., Adrienne P., Patty S., L.J.
Notes: 

Subject: Inner warmth

FPs,

Back and side go bare, go bare,
Both foot and hand go cold;
But belly, God send thee good ale enough;
Whether it be new or old!
-- William Stevenson, *Gammer Gurton’s Needle*

Warm up at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, June 2, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


May 26, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Patty S., L.J.
Notes: 

Subject: Stiff (on) drink

FPs,

I know folks all have a tizzy about it, but I like a little bourbon of an evening. It helps me sleep. I don't much care what they say about it.
-- Lillian Carter

T'is no tizzy at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, May 26, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


May 19, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Patty S., L.J.
Notes: Bushismos; where's Simon when you need him?

Subject: The wisdom of age

FPs,

If the devil were to offer me a resurgence of what is commonly called virility, I'd decline. "Just keep my liver and lungs in good working order," I'd reply, "so I can go on drinking and smoking!"
-- Luis Buñuel

Get pickled at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, May 19, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.L.J.


May 12, 2004
Attendance: Martina G., Dagny D., Tod B., Patty S., L.J.
Notes: FPs get no respect; fraternal organizations, sororities and social neurosis; skimpy whisky; bumper stickers, a matter of faith; plutocracy and oligarchy, perhaps related to goofocracy and kuklagarchy; documentary can be heard and not seen; guerrilla vasectomy.

Subject: In deed if not thought

FPs,

I often sit back and think, "I wish I’d done that," and find out later that I already have.
-- Richard Harris, on his drinking

Lose not quite so much consciousness at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, May 12, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


May 5, 2004
Attendance: Martina G., Patty S., Sharon T., Beth O., Camilla, David, Quihn, J T., Hugh D., Dagny, L.J.
Notes: 

Subject: Perspective

FPs,

It is a sign of a dull nature to occupy oneself deeply in matters that concern the body; for instance, to be over much occupied about exercise, about eating and drinking, about easing oneself, about sexual intercourse.
-- Epictetus, *Encheiridion*, no. 41

Keep it shallow at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, May 5, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


April 28, 2004
Attendance: 
Notes: 

Subject: Scholarly pursuits

FPs,

Sir Toby Belch. Does not our life consist of the four elements?
Sir Andrew Aguecheek. Faith, so they say, but I think it rather consists of eating and drinking.
Sir Toby Belch. Thou’rt a scholar; therefore let us eat and drink.
-- William Shakespeare *Twelfth Night*

And be merry at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, April 28, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


April 21, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Jen A., Tod B., J H., Neo & Davis, Hugh D., L.J.
Notes: No respect from Dylan's: a party pushes us out of our room and we have to suffer the bad music up front; arm wrestling to counter the knitting; nude mud knitting; code brown: the laxative wedding set; and wedding parking lots may be hazardous to old women.

Subject: Measure for measure

FPs,

More than a pint, less than a quart.
-- Ann L. Maytag, appliance heiress, when asked about her daily drinking habits in a suit against her former attorney

Measure it out at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, April 21, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


April 14
Attendance: Jessica L., Phoebe M., Dagny, J H., L.J.
Notes: 

Subject: Election training

FPs,

The biggest danger for a politician is to shake hands with a man who is physically stronger, has been drinking and is voting for the other guy.
-- William Proxmire

So drink up at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, April 14, at Dylan's, 19th and Folsom, in case you get to shake Bush's hand later.

L.J.


April 7, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Patty S., Tod B., Jen A., Beth O., Troy, David, Hugh D., L.J.
Notes: Whiney worse than loud; sharing needles; Barcelona: bullfighting, cosmopolitanism, indexicology and dating issues in the 21st century; cooking and its hangers on.

Subject: Fate

FPs,

Miniver Cheevy, born too late,
Scratched his head and kept on thinking;
Miniver coughed, and called it fate,
And kept on drinking.
-- Edwin Arlington Robinson

At least there's 8:30 p.m., April 7, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


March 31, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, J, Jessica, Patty S., Jen A., L.J.
Notes: 

Subject: Jungle culture

FPs,

The same people who are murdered slowly in the mechanized slaughterhouses of work are also arguing, singing, drinking, dancing, making love, holding the streets, picking up weapons and inventing a new poetry.
-- Raoul Vaneigem, Belgian situationist philosopher, The Revolution of Everyday Life (1967, trans. 1983)

And perhaps meeting at Dylan's, at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, March 31.

L.J.


March 24, 2004
Attendance: Special honorary Fighting Pacifists Jon Langford and Rico Bell of the Mekons, Titch and Bunky, Dagny, L.J.
Notes: Langford and Bell and some of their friends stop off at Dylan's after an appearance at Amoeba Records and on their way to Slim's; Titch's mum and dad are on hand; L.J. presents Titch and Langford Fighting Pacifist T-shirts, and at Slim's for the Mekons show, Langford comes on stage wearing his; FP Neo, in front of the stage taping, shouts out during one break in the songs, "Cool shirt, dude," to which Jon replies, in tequila-induced, cut-up form (approximately): "Yer damn right it's a cool shirt. You've got good taste, dude. Someone down at Titch's pub gave me this shirt. Titch's is the only Welsh pub in the world outside of Wales. [Some other rambling remarks about Welsh assembly habits.] The Fighting Pacifists is a group that meets there every Wednesday. I want to be a Fighting Pacifist. I like the idea of fighting for pacifism. Because, you see, I'm for pacifism, but I'm extremely violent."

Subject: I was waiting in the bar, where were you?

FPs,

At Slim's seeing the Mekons. The band with the FP and Dylan's connections has a show starting at 8 p.m., so that's where Titch and some of us will be. For those of you who can't make the show, or who would rather knit, if you hang around Dylan's late enough, we may come back later with some or all of the Mekons.

Whiskey sex shack,
L.J.


March 17, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Patty S., L.J.
Notes: Dylan's St. Patrick's Day party.

Subject: FPs,

Saint Patrick was a gentleman
Who through strategy and stealth
Drove all the snakes from Ireland
Here's a drinkee to his health!
But not too many drinkees
Lest we lose ourselves and then
Forget the good Saint Patrick
And see them snakes again!
-- Unknown
No man is an Ireland.
-- Chicago Mayor Richard Daley

Join the celebration at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, March 17, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

Beannachtam na Feile Padraig!

L.J.


March 10, 2004
Attendance: Beth O., Dagny, Sharon T., Allison, Lyn G., Patty S., Tod B., Christine, L.J.
Notes: 

Subject: Bad brains

FPs,

I have very poor and unhappy brains for drinking.
-- William Shakespeare, *Othello*

But, gawd, can I put away the knitting! Come see, at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, March 10, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


March 3, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, J T., Beth O., Shari, Jessica, Patty S., Jen A., L.J.
Notes: Pasties return, including the promised but previously rare cheese and onion.

Subject: Alibi

FPs,

I envy people who drink -- at least they know what to blame everything on.
-- Oscar Levant

Get your excuse at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, March 3, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom. L.J.


February 25, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Beth O., Sharon, Tom, Patty S., Troy, L.J.
Notes: It all comes together when you knit: special guest musician Michael learns to knit; Bunky places scarf order; Titch shows his 50th birthday present, knitted by Danielle.

Subject: Among other things

FPs,

Love is a nervous habit. Haven’t many said so? Snacking. Smoking. Talking. Joking. Alike as light bulbs. Drinking. Drugging. Frigging. Fucking. Writing. Forgetting. Nerves, nerves, nerves.
-- William Gass

Knitting, too, at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, February 25, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


February 18, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Sharon T., Beth O., Jen A., Cindy O., David, Quihn, Troy, L.J.
Notes: Knit-wits; b-day for Cindy; Texas Hold 'em, the aptly named card game for the Regime Change deck; lots of invective and vitriol for the faces in the deck (lots of "cunt" from Daggers).

Subject: Allegiances

FPs,

Farewell, woman! I intend
Henceforth every night to sit
With my lewd, well-natured friend,
Drinking to engender wit.
-- John Wilmot, 2d Earl Of Rochester (1647–1680)

To wit, at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, February 11, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


February 11, 2004
Attendance: Patty S., Dagny, J T., Jessica, Alex B., Leland, Melissa, Jen A., Beth O., Gibbs C., Anita, L.J.
Notes: Knitters hog-tie drinking group; special guest villain Alex B. with special guest henchpersons.

Subject: Leisure time

FPs,

He who does not give himself leisure to be thirsty cannot take pleasure in drinking.
-- Michel de Montaigne

Why not at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, February 11, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


February 4, 2004
Attendance: Tod B., Dagny, L.J.
Notes: Who cares if they're good, they shouldn't be playing their music on our turf; how to find the right misspelling when searching on eBay; the knew fad of gnitting; 8 fractions of essential vitamins and minerals with tons more crap.

Subject: Reverse pscyhology

FPs,

It is immoral to get drunk because the headache comes after the drinking, but if the headache came first and the drunkenness afterwards, it would be moral to get drunk.
-- Samuel Butler

So come cure your headache, at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, February 4, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


January 28, 2004
Attendance: Patrick, Jen A., Sharon T., L.J.
Notes: 

Subject: Enjoying and not enjoying

FPs,

The one conclusive argument that has at all times discouraged people from drinking a poison is not that it kills but rather that it tastes bad.
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
Candy
Is dandy
But Liquor
Is quicker.
-- Ogden Nash

Discuss amongst yourselves, at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, January 28, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


January 21, 2004
Attendance: Tod B., Dagny, L.J.
Notes: That kind of music, the kind that I like.

Subject: Versus swooning

FPs,

Prove that ever I lose more blood with love than I will get again with drinking . . .
-- William Shakespeare, *Much Ado About Nothing*

No ballads or brothels at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, January 21, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


January 14, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Sharon T., Patty S., Tod B., Jen A., Hugh D., L.J.
Notes: Other group prospects: car theft; knitting; cold cures; junk mail promotional magazines (on or off topic); old magazines (sold and unsold); sex video games; "The Lord of the Rings" movies (nonplused and non-nonplused); 70s movies (got and not got); Coppola movies (good and bad).

Subject: The spirits in ye

FPs,

When Methodist preachers come down
A-preaching that drinking is sinful,
I’ll wager the rascals a crown
They always preach best with a skinful.
-- Oliver Goldsmith, *She Stoops to Conquer*

Say amen to that at 8:30 p.m., Wednesday, January 14, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom.

L.J.


January 7, 2004
Attendance: Dagny, Jen A., L.J.
Notes: Doing the enemy's hair; who's squirting the water, i.e. who set up this monkey sociology; the classic Homeric age of American culture; go get me a switch; there sure are a lot of jinni jokes.

Subject: Another from the drinking quote dynamo

FPs,

Early rising is no pleasure; early drinking’s just the measure.
-- François Rabelais

That's why we meet at 8:30 p.m., Wednesdays, at Dylan's, 19th & Folsom, like this Wednesday, January 7.

L.J.


Have another.